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Author Topic: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014  (Read 66306 times)

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #780 on: February 09, 2018, 11:45:58 AM »
Other than getting it in to the media, I couldn't be more public.....those copied in have been told and the PGDB are aware of these posts.....

So framing an innocent person, while covering up for the guilty, for a near fatal explosion must be ok for all these people....they know you know too and apparently couldn't give a shit.....

Where is the respect for our trade?

Precedents are set by past actions.....this precedent says all this is ok......what if is you next time, or someone you know who gets shafted or injured?
You can't choose who you are.....but you are the sum of your choices.......

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #781 on: February 15, 2018, 05:06:24 PM »


I have just und out t they used one of my warning letters to try to pin the explosion on me.....for a report solely aimed at me.....ignoring all the evidence.....is that fair? 




From: Paul & Emma Gee [mailto:gspservices@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Thursday, 15 February 2018 8:55 a.m.
To: 'martin@pgdb.co.nz'; 'complaints@pgdb.co.nz'; 'comms@pgdb.co.nz'; 'PGDB Competency Based Licensing'; 'ceo@pgdb.co.nz'; 'exams@pgdb.co.nz'; 'gascerts@pgdb.co.nz'; 'Hannah Neville'; 'jayson@pgdb.co.nz'; 'licensing'; 'overseas@pgdb.co.nz'; 'Registrar'; 'accounts@pgdb.co.nz'
Cc: 'jacinda.ardern@parliament.govt.nz'; 'Andrew Little'; 'Julia Minko'; 'jenny.salesa@parliament.govt.nz'; 'phil.twyford@parliament.govt.nz'; 'Wal Gordon'; 'Allan Day'; 'Colleen Upton'; 'Chris Griggs'; 'lynnmoff'; 'Faculty of Law'; 'Paul Warhurst'
Subject: FW: OIA request for Handwriting report

 

Martin,

 

Thank you for the recent handwriting report, attached…..please can you explain the ethics of the PGDB using one of my warning letters, attached (a letter warning about dodgy certs covering dangerous gas work) which was sent 5 years before an explosion nearly killed someone.

 

This letter was used by the PGDB as a reference document for a handwriting report (a very directed and focused report only on me only, done well before BOTH mine and Darnley’s hearing)  ….trying to pin that explosion on me. Really? Using my warning to try to implicate me for what I was warning about? Then withholding that report, not divulging it until now, after an OIA request?

 

Why wasn’t any of Darnley’s handwriting/doc’s reviewed….like the cert for the pizza oven (which the PGDB lost) or the actual job card that shows Darnley’s hand for the addition of the fryers that caused the explosion.

 

 

The use of this letter is nearly as bad as relying on child molestation case notes to prove probability in a plumbing context, nearly!

 

 

 

All the evidence is here for those who want to look in the email below and evidence attached.

 

 

 

 

While I have your ear, I am yet to hear from you about the gas caused fire in Nelson where I asked the question in an email, quoted below, on the 20th Jan 2018.

 

How many fires caused by a gas leak were there in Nelson on that date? This should narrow it down for you…..if there was no investigation (similar to mine) then why not? It made the Notifiable gas accidents report from Energy Safety attached, emphasis on notifiable. The reference I sent in early December was taken from this report.

 

 

I have also just recently found out from someone I trust, that Darnley….who most if not all evidence points to for the Milton Street explosion, and is probably involved in the fire above (please can you confirm)….that the reason he was visited (and as a result gifted his full certifying gas license by Hammond with no apprentice sat after one oral exam, by none other than the same Hammond appointed to investigate the explosion)……well he was making up his own certs….on an exemption license….whilst selling gas….(Hammond also lobbied for deregulation form a gas retailers point of view). Confused? Call me on it….I’ll fly up and walk you through the huge amount of evidence.

 

So to recap…..

 

Please explain the ethics on utilising my warning to try to pin the signature on me for the dodgy certs.
 

Confirm who caused the fire.
 

Was Darnley issuing his own certs
 

Why are you protecting this man
 

 

 

I have copied in a few PGDB email addresses as I want this email tabled to the PGDB board at its next meeting. I want the perpetual Board take ownership of this debacle, not sweep it under the carpet.

 

You talk about trust and integrity you inherit the past and leave a legacy for the future with your present.

 

Injustice is corrupting if it is accepted....even if it is ignored…… it eats away at integrity, opening the doors to the dismantlers of good, just like rust corrupting the integrity of an otherwise strong steel durable structure.....its no plan for the future. 

 

This is why we don't use this as a template for ongoing success, history tells us corruption ultimately fails and causes chaos.

 

 

 

Yours With Integrity

 

Paul Gee

 

 


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From: Paul & Emma Gee [mailto:gspservices@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, 14 February 2018 2:42 p.m.
To: 'Allan Day'
Cc: 'Wal Gordon'; 'Colleen Upton'
Subject: RE: OIA request for Handwriting report

 

Hi Allan,

 

I have copied in Wal and Colleen so we can see it all in one place.

 

The sick minded people behind this used one of my “warning” letters so they could pin the signatures on the certificates on me….I distinctly remember that the investigator (investigator he was not) stated that it was all about the signature……ignoring all the different inks and different handwriting.

 

This two page letter was one that I sent to warn about my concerns over 5 years before the explosion…..mentioned in reference docs for report, i.e. a two page letter stamped 09 01 04 (stamped by the PGDB)…..the letter being dated 06 01 04, the three days difference for it to be delivered to the PGDB and is the only letter I sent around that time.

 

This letter submitted by the investigator as a sample of my signature to give to the handwriting expert …..if you look at the letter….my concerns were later shown to be very well founded and actually bang on.   

 

 

 

This report then goes on to raising doubt over my involvement, even saying the signatures were different and could have been copied by a skilled person (all be it doubtful)…..The investigator ignoring Darnley involvement totally (please see break down of my findings in my email to Wal).

 

Not forgetting this report was withheld and I have only just seen it.

 

 

 

Did I get a fair go?

 

 

All the Best

 

Paul

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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From: Allan Day [mailto:allan-day@xtra.co.nz]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 10:50 a.m.
To: Paul & Emma Gee
Subject: Re: OIA request for Handwriting report

 

Hi Paul

Thank you for including me into your email, please keep me advised as to the response.

I have been reading Wal's report/submission and I can tell you I find it upsetting at the injustice of those involved and the wheels with in wheels as they concealed and covered the truth.

Kind regards

Allan

 

 

 

On 15/01/2018, at 11:21 AM, Paul & Emma Gee <gspservices@xtra.co.nz> wrote:

 

Martin,

 

Please by way of an OIA request can I get a copy of the report from the forensic document examination and handwriting expert who the PGDB contracted to analyse documents for the investigation into the explosion at Milton Street.

 

It is the report that the PGDB were billed for 12 hours of consultation, examination and the resulting report for. The invoice from the handwriting expert was dated 20 September 2010, but as it was part of the investigation it should have been retained until the hearing which is within the 7 years limit.

 

I would have thought a copy would have been made available to me at the time, but it has never been passed on to me and I have never seen a copy. It is within 7 years to the hearing and I can assure you my request is neither frivolous nor am I being vexatious. I do not think the well worn excuse of it’s “too hard to find” is warranted either.

 

A man nearly died in a preventable explosion due to circumstances I had warned about for 6 years before that explosion. My family were terrorised and my life has been in turmoil since.

 

Please Martin do not continue this cover up. Please clear my name and give me my life back. I have done no wrong but my family has paid a hefty price.

 

Thank you

 

Yours with Integrity

Paul Gee

 

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #782 on: February 15, 2018, 05:14:32 PM »
That should read "just found out"......



Have a read of the letter I sent over 5 years before the explosion....

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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #783 on: February 18, 2018, 11:59:39 AM »
That's the mettle of these people..... to utilise my letter trying to warn about dodgy certs covering dangerous work, to pin those certs on the writer of that letter, me, via my signature.....then not divulging the handwriting report and ignoring the questions that report raised....

Bear in mind there were two people charged with the explosion....but the handwriting report is solely aimed at me....then strangely enough the charge for the explosion for Darnley just disappears....

Read the letter sent to the PGDB in Jan 04, after I rang the PGDB in Dec 03 .....explosion in April 2009.....

Same people relied on child molestation case notes to prove a point on probability.


Now they won't own up to what they did, it needs a public inquiry.



HOW CAN YOU TRUST THESE PEOPLE?


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Re: Fellow Practitioner Issue 236 Dated 12 December 2014
« Reply #784 on: February 18, 2018, 01:29:28 PM »
If we can get this looked at under a select committee or public inquiry it will ultimately protect us all (NZ public included), and set the correct precedent for the future.

The precedent set now is they can do as they please and shaft who they like....this helps no one but the dodgy bullies who like it this way.


Which way is the best way?

I believe impartial, open and transparent fairness carried out with natural justice observed is best, their actions have shown that this is not their way, and this is the way (if this is allowed to stand) YOU can expect to be treated.


You can guarantee that if it suits them, they will hang you out to dry....regardless of how connected you think you are... 





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